Typescript 2023-08-13

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10:10:08

10:10:08 From Paul Rodwell ``` { type: 'pagefold', deps: ['html'], fn: item => html => html`<hr class="pagefold" data-content="${item.text}">` } ```

10:12:38 From Robert Best PWAs need a 192x192 and 512x512 icon linked in the manifest in order for the PWA to be installable... might flagmatic generate multiple sizes for use within wiki? I wound up just using gimp and scaling a flag to the sizes I needed and saved it.

10:14:32 From Jeff Miller PAGE behavior does Observable allow query behavior over items? should a Map item be only a consumer and not a preoducer of data for other items? producer

10:19:37

10:19:37 From Jeff Miller (furiously takes notes for job search purposes)

10:22:10

10:22:10 From Eric Dobbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain

10:22:15 From Paul Rodwell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain

10:23:46 From Jeff Miller the comedy duo with a thousand faces the most famous quote about an environmentally conscious event, a picnic relevant forever ironic Walt Kelly

10:24:52 From Eric Dobbs Cartoon hero and sidekick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Mouse_(1981_TV_series) (and Penfold) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_and_Ferb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Rocky_and_Bullwinkle_and_Friends

10:26:40 From Paul Rodwell Nothing like the original Grimms fairy stories to give the young ones nightmares.

10:26:51 From Jeff Miller indeed

10:29:47

10:29:47 From Jeff Miller meme contagion for good and ill (the Internet) and it could fall apart

10:41:59

10:41:59 From Jeff Miller switched to tea

10:43:13 From Jeff Miller one can pitch nine hitless innings and still lose the game (I heard that report yesterday)

10:44:33 From Jeff Miller https://css-spikes.dbbs.com/pwa/ oops https://css-spikes.dbbs.co/pwa/ THAT one.

10:45:46 From Jeff Miller hmm

10:46:50 From Robert Sterbal Harvey Maddux

10:47:04 From Jeff Miller hmm nothing is rendering for me but it is fetching all the JS oh okay when I press the Phone button I see an empty pane

10:50:18

10:50:18 From Robert Best I asked this above but since we're talking about PWAs, I figured I'd ask again... PWAs need a 192x192 and 512x512 icon linked in the manifest in order for the PWA to be installable... might flagmatic generate multiple sizes for use within wiki? I wound up just using gimp and scaling a flag to the sizes I needed and saved it.

10:52:19 From Robert Sterbal what is the url again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Haddix%27s_near-perfect_game

10:54:32 From Robert Best Service worker saving JSON in indexedDB

10:54:45 From Robert Sterbal index.db service worker cache

10:55:29 From Peter fyi Install PWA on chrome seems to work ok

10:56:03 From Jeff Miller "be on a mobile" for a community app vs "be offline"

10:56:23 From Robert Sterbal https://iosref.com/ios

10:56:25 From Jeff Miller but PWAs are certainly in scope of interest communication between plugins in a different way

10:57:05 From Robert Sterbal https://iosref.com/ios-usage

10:58:28 From Jeff Miller Observable's architecture is pretty nice in how it's prompting us synergetic

11:00:21 From Paul Rodwell the [css for pagefold](https://github.com/paul90/wiki-spike-css/blob/5b09c154641db10da43d1af9eb5e9fbdebaf64e5/pwa/style.css#L129-L156) just to be complete.

11:00:24 From Jeff Miller spinner pending promise represented as "waiting..." or something

11:02:50 From Jeff Miller viki and fedwiki kicking at FedWiki pretty vigorously

11:03:58 From Ward Cunningham The Future of Knowledge Graphs in a World of Large Language Models https://chaos.social/@davidak/110879578571265330

11:10:20

11:10:20 From Marc Pierson http://marc.tries.fed.wiki/view/integrating-community-models/view/iad

11:10:23 From Robert Best Not able to get on audio right now. But that's an exciting prospect.

11:11:41 From Marc Pierson http://marc.tries.fed.wiki/view/integrating-community-models/view/iad/view/eip-sketch#

11:21:09

11:21:09 From Jeff Miller marked-up snapshot for Eric's PWA before I post it to the Matrix figured I would bounce the screenshot off you before I post it to Matrix.

exciting!

11:22:03 From Peter Nice capture of how-to-doc

11:22:31 From Jeff Miller Church of Wiki

11:22:39 From Robert Best I can add it for you Marc. It's one new line in the plugmatic item on your admin page.

11:22:56 From Peter So a cult ..... 'W' instead of 'Q' (W short for WWW - WikiWikiWeb)

11:23:47 From Jeff Miller I guess I could mark the red alert as a missing favicon no real problem

11:24:00 From Peter but secret meaning of W is of course 'Ward'

11:24:07 From Paul Rodwell https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262581462/cognition-in-the-wild/

11:24:20 From Peter 'WardWikiWeb'

11:24:46 From Jeff Miller https://hci.ucsd.edu/hutchins/citw.html UCSD Human Computer Interaction lab Marc: it's a boat story on Puget Sound!! " The seed from which this book grew was planted in November 1980, when I spent most of a day on the navigation bridge of a U.S. Navy ship as it worked its way in from the open North Pacific, through the Straits of Juan de Fuca, and down Puget Sound to Seattle. I was aboard the ship to study what the operators of its steam propulsion plant knew and how they went about knowing it."

11:25:46 From Eric Dobbs Hmm. I think it’s probably fine. My only reservation is that wiki html items get rendered through DOMPurify to get sanitized for security. And I think Observable are taking a different approach (embedding in iframes) for their security model. So some chance that there’s risky html out in fedwiki json blobs that get exposed by this incomplete implementation. Risks there are probably small.

11:26:21 From Jeff Miller add a cautionary note that this is a prototype and call that out?

11:26:30 From Eric Dobbs Sure!

11:26:55 From Jeff Miller "this prototype uses DOMPurify, while Observable embeds iFrames for more isolation of HTML content" or "wiki uses DOMPurify"

11:27:28 From Eric Dobbs Wiki uses DOMPurify and the prototype does not yet.

11:30:23

11:30:23 From Ward Cunningham http://found.ward.fed.wiki/cats-curiosity.html

11:32:28 From Jeff Miller I wish my job onboardings were so good!

11:35:13

11:35:13 From Paul Rodwell thinking of neighbourhoods, todays Food Programme was interesting.

11:38:01

11:38:01 From Jeff Miller revised with a cautionary note about the prototype and external HTML content "this prototype does not yet use DOMPurify"

11:41:12

11:41:12 From Eric Dobbs Sounds good

11:41:38 From Robert Sterbal Linus Torvals

11:42:54 From Robert Best He's selling NFTs now

11:47:56

11:47:56 From Ward Cunningham http://found.ward.fed.wiki/cats-curiosity.html

11:48:45 From Marc Pierson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethology

11:50:11 From Paul Rodwell https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xTCqlCzgIV8

11:53:29

11:53:29 From Robert Sterbal Replying to "He's selling NFTs no..." selling NFTs is a handy way of distributing coupons

11:53:30 From Peter "visualize yourself flying" ;-)

11:54:47 From Marc Pierson Ward’s Somnolence Index

11:56:43 From Robert Sterbal 200 days

11:57:29 From Jeff Miller Alan Watts: "Once you've got the message, hang up the phone."

11:58:38 From Jeff Miller "only remembered the bad" -> fire safety regulations